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		<title>By: Aaron N.</title>
		<link>http://www.clientcide.com/tools/anyone-read-the-book-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-31531</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jacob. I&#039;m glad that the book kept you both interested and entertained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jacob. I&#8217;m glad that the book kept you both interested and entertained.</p>
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		<title>By: jjwkenne</title>
		<link>http://www.clientcide.com/tools/anyone-read-the-book-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-31530</link>
		<dc:creator>jjwkenne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed the book.  The ninja references had me laughing out loud.  I was hoping it would be a reference book but it&#039;s not really that kind of read.  A unique combination of informative and entertaining.  Congrats!

Jacob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed the book.  The ninja references had me laughing out loud.  I was hoping it would be a reference book but it&#8217;s not really that kind of read.  A unique combination of informative and entertaining.  Congrats!</p>
<p>Jacob</p>
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		<title>By: bluff</title>
		<link>http://www.clientcide.com/tools/anyone-read-the-book-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-31498</link>
		<dc:creator>bluff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The book is great!

I have had it for one day and read about 3/4 of it.

I have now a better understanding of the MooTools way, this was something I have been struggling with for about a year as I come from a PHP programming background.

I have no problem with the font size, I do like larger fonts.

The examples are first rate, especially the class example. I have now discovered I have been doing things rather a long winded and complicated way.

This book will help in simplifying my code and speed development up considerably.

Your book is simple and human readable.
Well done for this valuable contribution to the MooTools documentation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The book is great!</p>
<p>I have had it for one day and read about 3/4 of it.</p>
<p>I have now a better understanding of the MooTools way, this was something I have been struggling with for about a year as I come from a PHP programming background.</p>
<p>I have no problem with the font size, I do like larger fonts.</p>
<p>The examples are first rate, especially the class example. I have now discovered I have been doing things rather a long winded and complicated way.</p>
<p>This book will help in simplifying my code and speed development up considerably.</p>
<p>Your book is simple and human readable.<br />
Well done for this valuable contribution to the MooTools documentation</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron N.</title>
		<link>http://www.clientcide.com/tools/anyone-read-the-book-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-31496</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good feedback panzooka!

The index was also something I wanted, but the format of the book (the &quot;firstPress&quot; series) is that it&#039;s an &quot;early look&quot; at an &quot;emerging technology&quot; and they don&#039;t do an index for any of the firstPress series. I was a bit bummed when I found this out myself, but these books are also supposed to be shorter than mine (100-150 pages).

As for making the book more fun - starting out with the stuff you&#039;ll use a lot, my objective was to teach people how to use the framework, not sell them on it. The demos online and the MooTorial should be sufficient to do that. People who are getting the book are looking for more detail than the docs, MooTorial, and the demos have to offer. I tried to organize the book in a manner that would build knowledge successively in each chapter so that by the end, when the Class tutorials are demonstrated, you would have all the knowledge needed to understand it.

I would like to include more illustrations. Frankly, I both ran out of time and out of space. The publisher was already a little antsy about the length of the book (again, the target length was max 150 pages) and it was already a bit late for the deadline...

I don&#039;t know if the second edition will be significantly different. I&#039;m hoping to just update what needs to change when MooTools 1.3 comes out rather than rewrite the whole thing. It was waaaaay more work than I thought it would be to write it the first time!

Thanks for the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good feedback panzooka!</p>
<p>The index was also something I wanted, but the format of the book (the &#8220;firstPress&#8221; series) is that it&#8217;s an &#8220;early look&#8221; at an &#8220;emerging technology&#8221; and they don&#8217;t do an index for any of the firstPress series. I was a bit bummed when I found this out myself, but these books are also supposed to be shorter than mine (100-150 pages).</p>
<p>As for making the book more fun &#8211; starting out with the stuff you&#8217;ll use a lot, my objective was to teach people how to use the framework, not sell them on it. The demos online and the MooTorial should be sufficient to do that. People who are getting the book are looking for more detail than the docs, MooTorial, and the demos have to offer. I tried to organize the book in a manner that would build knowledge successively in each chapter so that by the end, when the Class tutorials are demonstrated, you would have all the knowledge needed to understand it.</p>
<p>I would like to include more illustrations. Frankly, I both ran out of time and out of space. The publisher was already a little antsy about the length of the book (again, the target length was max 150 pages) and it was already a bit late for the deadline&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if the second edition will be significantly different. I&#8217;m hoping to just update what needs to change when MooTools 1.3 comes out rather than rewrite the whole thing. It was waaaaay more work than I thought it would be to write it the first time!</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: panzooka</title>
		<link>http://www.clientcide.com/tools/anyone-read-the-book-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-31495</link>
		<dc:creator>panzooka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have.
ye, the font size is pretty large.

For the second edition, I think you will need to include reference style index at the back of the book, I think this is most lacking in this edition.

Also you must understand there are many novice who are reading this book, it will be better to start the book with something more interesting(than traditional javascript) such as the $(&#039;&#039;) method to replace document.getElementByID(&#039;&#039;), to get them started instead of the boring $type, $defined, etc

The book cover states &quot;Official Mootools Reference&quot; yet, the book lacks reference informations.


I really likes the transitions pictures at page 146, very helpful.

If you would like thicker book or smaller font, I think a short tutorial highlighting the most shining part of the mootools package: selectors, effects, AJAX etc

looking forward to second edition</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have.<br />
ye, the font size is pretty large.</p>
<p>For the second edition, I think you will need to include reference style index at the back of the book, I think this is most lacking in this edition.</p>
<p>Also you must understand there are many novice who are reading this book, it will be better to start the book with something more interesting(than traditional javascript) such as the $(&#8221;) method to replace document.getElementByID(&#8221;), to get them started instead of the boring $type, $defined, etc</p>
<p>The book cover states &#8220;Official Mootools Reference&#8221; yet, the book lacks reference informations.</p>
<p>I really likes the transitions pictures at page 146, very helpful.</p>
<p>If you would like thicker book or smaller font, I think a short tutorial highlighting the most shining part of the mootools package: selectors, effects, AJAX etc</p>
<p>looking forward to second edition</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the font size, I know. The format of the book was based on the &quot;First Press&quot; template and wasn&#039;t something I had any control over. When I first got a copy of the book, I had the same reaction and have since heard the same comment from others. I&#039;ve passed this on to the publisher, but who knows if they&#039;ll update it for later editions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the font size, I know. The format of the book was based on the &#8220;First Press&#8221; template and wasn&#8217;t something I had any control over. When I first got a copy of the book, I had the same reaction and have since heard the same comment from others. I&#8217;ve passed this on to the publisher, but who knows if they&#8217;ll update it for later editions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: atom</title>
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		<dc:creator>atom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had a look at it.  I haven&#039;t read it but did look through it.  The TOC does seem to indicate a pretty reasonable progression / layout of the right information.  I have not had a chance to read it in its entirety, but will shortly.  I am already enjoying the colorful examples (ninjas, etc).  The font-size is suspiciously large, almost seems like its for old people or children, or is perhaps there to pad the page numbers.  Not sure you had anything to do with that, just a a note.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had a look at it.  I haven&#8217;t read it but did look through it.  The TOC does seem to indicate a pretty reasonable progression / layout of the right information.  I have not had a chance to read it in its entirety, but will shortly.  I am already enjoying the colorful examples (ninjas, etc).  The font-size is suspiciously large, almost seems like its for old people or children, or is perhaps there to pad the page numbers.  Not sure you had anything to do with that, just a a note.</p>
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